Secrets of Roadkill’s General Mayhem Hellcat Engine Swap

Now the facts can be revealed about the most recent buildup of our 1968 Charger known as the General Mayhem. Over the past several months we’ve had an Interweb jab-fest with Richard Rawlings and Gas Monkey Garage that led up to an 1/8-mile heads-up showdown of 707-horsepower, Hellcat-powered cars at our Roadkill Nights event on August 12, 2015. We got our doors blown off. They brought a lightweight, back-half ’67 Dart with a Powerglide and a trans brake, while we stuck to the rules we’d set: 3,500 pound minimum, leaf springs, 12-inch tires, and a 2015 Dodge Hellcat engine and trans. Up until now, that’s all you’ve really known, as we’ve been kind of secretive about our prep for the Gas Monkey drag race. Now we’re going to spell it out. If you don’t want to read all the details, scroll to the bottom for the spec list on the General Mayhem.

First, if you’re new here, the General Mayhem is a ’68 Charger that we traded for a set of cylinder heads a few years ago. Next, we bought a class A motorhome, tore the 440 out of it, threw in some leftovers from our ’73 Fury race car (for 24 Hours of Lemons) and went rally racing, Dukes style. More recently, we yanked the drivetrain out of the General and heaved it into the Crop Duster, our ’70 Plymouth street/strip car. There was a new plan for the General Mayhem: Dodge had become our title sponsor, so we scammed a 2015 SRT Hellcat drivetrain out of them. That drivetrain happened to be attached to a complete 2015 SRT Charger development car that was destined for the crusher. The swap was on.

We sent both the General and the donor car to Diversified Creations (DiversifiedCreations.com) in Brighton, Michigan. Our buddy Mike Copeland runs the place, and is the go-to guy for making magic happen with engine swaps involving new Detroit technology. The plan was to slap the Hellcat drivetrain into the car, then drive it cross-country from Michigan, through the Black Hills and Yellowstone, arriving in Washington for a return visit to the Dirt Fish rally school where we’d run the Charger in ROADKILL episode 32. Around the same time that the Hellcat engine was mounted in the General’s engine bay, we noticed that both ROADKILL and Gas Monkey Garage were sponsored by Dodge, and because of the connection, we issued a challenge for the GMG guys that had been outlined by Roadkill Nationer Jeremy Nutt: “Who can build the better junkyard car in 3 days and drive it 1,000 miles? No TV magic, just gearheads.” Gas Monkey ignored it, which is understandable. However, Dodge contacted Rawlings, who agreed to a Hellcat-powered showdown as Gas Monkey was also building a car. The Internet smack-talk was on. Simultaneously, our company (TEN: The Enthusiast Network) had been working on the Roadkill Nights event, an 1/8-mile drag race in the parking lot of the Silverdome in Pontiac, Michigan. The plan for the General Mayhem changed to support the event. It was going to become a drag car. Even with the car’s purpose flipping to straightline performance, we wanted to make sure that everything could be changed back to our original Mad Max/General Lee, off-roady kinda vibe.

Nearly a year ago, in our first talk with Dodge president Tim Kuniskis, we told him we wanted to execute the very first swap of a Hellcat into an old muscle car. He quipped, “I don’t think you’d ever be able to make it run,” referring to the challenge of the new, complex, multi-tiered electrical system in the production car where there are multiple computers that all need to talk to each other: one each for the engine, trans, body, and other accessories. Copeland and Diversified knew that this was the case, and had a simple plan to overcome the problem for our short deadline: swap the entire electrical system from the ’15 into the ’68.

Daryl DeLaere runs the shop at Diversified and is about the fastest, most relentless wrench we’ve ever seen. With Daryl, his crew, and us, the 2015 donor car came apart in half a day, and the engine and trans were in place the next day. That’s when we left, and by the time we returned three weeks later, the car was a driver. We told him to do it “ROADKILL style,” which meant zip-ties, tex screws, and no detail painting were fine. It saved time.

The physical mounting of the engine required a large notch in the stock K-member, and the factory mounts had to be cut off so that custom solid units could be fabricated. The trans tunnel needed a few cuts to clear the huge ZG eight-speed Torqueflite automatic transmission, including trimming and reinforcing the factory torsion-bar crossmember. The eight-speed auto uses an unusual CV-joint output shaft and a solid driveshaft with no slipyoke, because the 2015 Charger has an IRS. As a solution, the ’68 Charger got a custom center carrier bearing setup, using a short section of the 2015 Charger driveshaft coming out of the trans, then into a Ford F250 carrier bearing, and then into a custom shaft to the rearend including a slipyoke.

The headers are Pacesetter 1-5/8-tube units for a Chrysler 300 with a 5.7L Hemi. They fit the passenger side just by mounting them on the head and then heating them with a torch and bending them to clear the frame and torsion bar (remember, we approved ROADKILL build techniques). The driver side header needed a couple tubes fabricated. It was tight on that side because we retained our Borgeson power steering box despite the weight penalty. The box is connected to the original Hellcat pump with custom hoses. While the power steering pump was left in place, the air-conditioning compressor was ditched.

All of the 2015 Charger’s cooling system was installed in the Mayhem, including the radiator, trans cooler, and intercoolers for the supercharger. The only thing omitted was the factory oil cooler. It took some holes and cuts to the stock ’68 core support to get all that junk mounted. The 2015’s puke tank, intercooler tank and pump, power center, and other underhood accessories were all mounted in the older car’s engine bay.

Next, we get into the electronics. The first step was messing around with the 2015 Charger before it was taken apart, disconnecting various devices to see what would and would not work. For example, the wheel-speed sensors can be disconnected and the car will operate perfectly, though you get a warning light and none of the traction or stability controls will function. It kills the speedo, too. But while wheel sensors can be unplugged, the car won’t run at all if you unplug the ABS controller. Therefore, the ABS unit is mounted into the General Mayhem and plugged in, even though it’s not doing anything.

The car also carries the engine, body, and trans computers (the latter is inside the transmission) well as a number of smaller control modules. As a result, the Mayhem now has a 2015 steering column and wheel, a 2015 instrument cluster, and even a touchscreen setup. Most of the luxury features are gone, but the screen still controls the performance functions, like the transmission modes. Even the 2015 fuel tank and all its evap systems are in place, mounted in the trunk and sealed off from the driver compartment. The 2015 brake-pedal assembly had to be used, as well.

With all the 2015 stuff in place, the car fired right up the first time, and the engine and trans functions like a stocker. But what about traction for that 707 horsepower and 650 lb-ft of torque? We didn’t want to tear up the General Mayhem with too many mods, but considering we had to race in a parking lot, we thought we’d need a lot of tire and cringed as the stock, rust-free wheel tubs were cut out to be replaced with aftermarket steel tubs to fit our 31×13.50-15 Hoosier QuickTime Pro, DOT-legal tires on Billet Specialties Street Lite beadlock wheels. The leaf-spring mounts were moved inboard, and we bought CalTracs leaf springs with 22-inch front segments like the stockers (the Mopar Super Stock springs that have been used since the ’60s have shorter, 20-inch front segments and in our experience they ride porly). The springs were augmented with CalTracs bars and QA1 double-adjustable billet shocks. The front suspension remains totally stock aside from more QA1 shocks and QA1 strut rods. The antiroll bars were removed from both ends of the car.

For the rearend, we really wanted to keep the Mopar 8-3/4, but we knew we would potentially need more strength, but more realistically, our short testing deadline demanded that we be able to change gear ratios at a moment’s notice, and its much easier to find Ford 9-inch gears and carriers than Mopar stuff. Miraculously, Moser Engineering cranked out a complete custom rear axle assembly for us in five hours—with us calling in favors, of course. The Moser 9-inch has 35-spline axles (stronger than the stock 28- or 31-spline) and an aluminum spool. Initially, we ran a 4.11 ring and pinion.

Yeah, Diversified also installed an NOS Fogger and progressive nitrous controller. The Fogger was on the engine very early in the game, but we kept it a secret. Keyboard commandos have claimed that we added the juice in a last-second panic before the race with Gas Monkey, but we had it on the car all along.

With the car completed in mid July 2015, we had to have had the world’s first running and driving swap of a Hellcat drivetrain into an older car. We know the Gas Monkey project was not running at that point, but we were ready for drag strip testing. But we already had one bit of bad news: with all steel body panels, the big trans, and the rollcage, our ’68 Charger weighed 3,880 pounds with the driver. And that’s with a totally gutted interior and no window glass aside from the windshield. The car is a tank.

Our first stop was Milan Dragway in Michigan, where we’d asked for zero track prep because we know we’d be dealing with poor conditions at the Silverdome parking lot race location. Initially, the car was porpoising off the line fairly badly, but fine tuning the compression and rebound settings on the QA1 shocks proved miraculous. We also played with rear tire pressure, settling on 9 psi cold. The CalTracs bars were set at ¾-turn of preload on both sides. With this setup, the Charger would just barely lift both front tires off the ground on launch. Our best pass of the day showed a 1.7-second 60-foot time, 7.10 at 99 mph at the eighth, and 11.07 at 122 in the quarter. That’s all without nitrous.

Next, we drove the car on the highway 140 miles—just to prove we could—to US 131 Motorsports Park, where we also asked for more prep. We got nearly identical performance results, with slight improvements with more fine tuning of the shocks. We had even more gains from changing the transmission into Track mode, and it shifted more quickly, reducing time on the rev limiter. One of the things we’ve found with all the new Hellcats is that they rpm so quickly that they tag the factory rev limiter between shifts, especially with tires spinning, and the Mayhem setup was no different. Track mode improved it. Lastly, we swapped the 4.11 cogs out of the Moser rearend and threw in some 3.70s. This required some more shock adjustments (we can’t tell you how happy we are with those double-adjustable units), but gave us the car’s quickest times yet: 1.66-second to the 60-foot mark, 7.02 at 101 at the eighth mile, and 10.90 at 125.24 at the quarter. It was a 10-second car with bone stock drivetrain—no nitrous! You might say, “I’ve seen bone stock Hellcats run 10.90s on drag radials, and they weigh much more!” You’re right, but you have to account for weather and track conditions. We had a stock 2015 Hellcat Charger with us at US 131, and it ran at the exact same time as General Mayhem, so it’s a good A/B comparo. The 2015 went 1.72 to the 60, 7.44 at 95.56 at the eighth, and 11.49 at 121.2 in the quarter. We also weighed the cars on the same scale: the 2015 was 4,710 without driver, and the Mayem was 3,700 without driver.

As we write this, we’ve never run on a real drag strip with the nitrous. Nope, we test-fired it a few times at a discrete off-track locale just to make sure it wouldn’t shut off the engine or explode the blower off the car, and then we headed to our showdown with Richard Rawlings and Gas Monkey Garage at our own Roadkill Nights event at the Silverdome in Pontiac, Michigan.

Of course you know we got beat, solidly. There are reasons for that, and don’t read them as excuses. Richard Rawlings had posted videos claiming he needed us to make any rules we wanted. We did, and he ignored all of them. The Gas Monkey ’67 Dart had a fabricated chassis from the firewall back, a four-link drag suspension, an all-aluminum interior, and a Chevy Powerglide racing transmission with a trans brake and a 9-inch torque converter. To counter our nitrous, the Gas Monkey Hellcat was running on E85 with a larger crank pulley for more supercharger boost and a tune that’s known to make about 800 horsepower. We could have done all that, except for the problem of time, money, and—most of all—we just didn’t want to hack up our car that badly. We stayed true to our original rules outline and counted on Gas Monkey never getting their car running. They did, but just three days before the race with the help from Diablo Sport techs who figured out how to get their Hellcat to run stand-alone without the other computers on board (except, we suspect, the body computer). Aaron Kaufman and the Gas Monkey crew did a great job dialing in the car in a single day at Yello Belly drag strip in Texas, showed up at Roadkill Nights, and laid it down hard. Their car is legitimately fast, outrunning us by a car length and a half even after we tree’d Aaron. We didn’t feed enough nitrous to it to overcome an 800 to 1,000-pound weight disadvantage, a racing Powerglide with a high-stall converter, and a four-link suspension. Even so, it was a great race at an amazing event in front of almost 10,000 people. Both the General Mayhem and the Gas Monkey Dart lifted tires and made their best passes ever on a temporary drag strip in an abandoned parking lot with so many whoopdeedoos that it’s a miracle that neither one of us had to lift off the throttle. It was a thrill ride, for sure.

What’s next for the General Mayhem Charger? First, we want to go to a real track and try it all-out with the nitrous. It’d be neat if we could spray it into the 9s. After that, the rear taillights must be swapped back to the original ’68 Charger units (wiring challenges with the 2015 harness left us with the 2015 lights on the back for now), and then we want to take it back to rally/handling trim. Dirt Fish awaits, and we wanna greet it with 707 horsepowers.

THE GENERAL MAYHEM

What: 1968 Dodge Charger

Weight: 3,880 with driver

Engine: Stock 2015 Dodge SRT Hellcat, 6.2L, supercharged, 707 hp and 650 lb-ft. Boosted with NOS Fogger nitrous oxide injection with 250hp jetting

Transmission: 2015 Dodge SRT eight-speed Torqueflite automatic

Rear Axle: Moser Engineering 9-inch with 35-spline axles, spool, 3.70 gears

Front Suspension: Stock with QA1 double-adjustable shocks and QA1 strut rods

Rear Suspension: CalTracs leaf springs, CalTracs traction devices, QA1 double-adjustable shocks, leaf springs moved inboard to the framerails, wheel tubs

Wheels & Tires: Billet Specialties 15×4 and 15×12 Street Lites with rear beadlocks. Hoosier 31×13.50-15 QuickTime Pro DOT tires on the rear and Hoosier 27×4.50-15 drag fronts.

Best Pass: With no nitrous, 1.66-second to the 60-foot mark, 7.02 at 101 at the eighth mile, and 10.90 at 125.24 at the quarter. As of this writing, the car has not been timed with nitrous oxide. As a point of reference, we ran our totally stock 2015 Dodge SRT Charger Hellcat on drag radials at the same time, and went 1.72 to the 60, 7.44 at 95.56 at the eighth, and 11.49 at 121.2 in the quarter.

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49 thoughts on “Secrets of Roadkill’s General Mayhem Hellcat Engine Swap

  1. Im happy you boys did the swap it was a great dodge effort 🙂

    Why not just use a 6 speed manual and the Holley ECU for the 3rd gen Hemi’s?
    Or better yet send me a Hellcat motor and I’ll do it to my 70 Challenger 🙂

  2. I wanted to put a HC drive line in my 68 charger but figured it was un obtainable & very much out of my price range, so i built a 512 low deck with an a518 overdrive , I really like the General mayhem & look forward to future shows.

  3. Thanks David for the great article spelling out how it was done. It was still fun to watch the brawl between GMG and you guys, in the end you all had fun and did something amazing by dropping in that Hellcat monster. I look forward to more videos and articles from you guys. Finnegan and Freiburger are just some much more fun to watch than fast and loud. When Jeremy Clarkson’s Top Gear was cancelled, I found you guys and you guys are about as much fun to watch as Clarkson, Hammond and May and that is what made their show great. Keep up the good work!

  4. You still have not addressed the fact that YOU Guys did not “build” the car.
    I think you guys are awesome and your program is one of the best car shows out there but I believe with farming out the work you have taken a lot of your hands on street cred out of the game. If you’re gonna represent yourself as the everyday working man wrenching on his own garbage and going up against a high dollar garage you have to at least put your own time in.
    I think we deserve an apology. 🙂

    1. Seriously, dude? Get a life.

      First out of the box, it’s a sponsored show. The money is theirs to do as they damn well please.

      Second, if you had to get this car together and get that motor and all it entails running, you’d still be crying to your mother after you ruined your Charger. Either one. Never mind the fact that it’s impossible to wrench on a car with this complexity and still maintain a day job.

    2. Part of the enjoyment I get out of watching the show is when they took a parted out hulk of an old Charger and them hodgepodge-ing together what ended up being a really cool car. The RV 440 just enhanced that for me because they “themselves” took a grandma wheezer motor, combined it with a bunch of fabricated and mismatched parts, added a dash of “fuck it good enough”, and made it cool. I liked the General Mayhem because it had it’s own unique personality, not because it was so fast or raced so well. It was something that theoretically I could do myself as a weekend mechanic. Now suddenly, a crew of professional strangers come in and totally revamp and ruin the vibe of the car in a way that I NEVER would have done, nor could I have afforded it anyway. OK, the car is way faster. But it’s got a corporate sponsorship stench all over it now that won’t wash off. They took the coolest beater I’ve ever seen and modernized it in a way that, judging by some of the comments I’ve seen here and on Facebook, has ruined the we-did-it-ourselves cool Road Warrior vibe. It’s my opinion, I’m entitled to it. I just don’t like the car any more. Roadkill needs to go back to its roots that made it popular cause they’ve seriously jumped the shark.

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  5. Glad to hear the 2015 tail lights were a necessity for the time being… they look bunk. Don’t forget to put the big headlights back in, too, those dinky ones look, uh…… bunk.

  6. I dont care what anyone says you can put lipstick on a pig and make it look sexy, at least until it pukes all over the road and then you get the Pigs ugly sister. Keep on rat rodding my friends

  7. I have mixed feelings about your new sponsorship. I love the fact that dodge has given y’all a bunch of new toys to play with. I love that y’all have built an awesome brand around it, including a website and a magazine. However I dislike is the new subscription structure. I understand that dodge is putting alot out and they only signed on because they saw a large profit margin. But its basically free advertising for them. Seriously, how many roadkill fans went and bought a brand new dodge to screw around with. I could understand that if you didn’t get a sponsor or something soon that you might have switched to subscripition, but the fact you do have a sponsor makes it kinda unfair.

    Im broke.. Every dime I make goes to my college education. The reason I love roadkill is because I can relate to it, it is extremely hilarious and entertaining and it is free. I was okay waiting a month. Now two?! Seriously?! I cant do this.

    I would love to subsribe and watch the show and get the magazine and to help y’all out with the show by subscribing. But I simply cannot afford it. Im not asking for hand outs, I dont want em.

    I just want to make sure you understand money may cause you to lose some viewers and maybe some fans entirely. Lord knows I have done my best to get everyone I meet to watch your shows. I use roadkill in about every other reference. But this seems like dodge is pulling the strings now.

  8. I am from San Antonio, Texas. Born and raised in Texas. My husband is retired Military and is from Kentucky . We live in San Antonio, Texas and watch Roadkill regularly and love the show and cannot wait for the magazine . My husband was building hotrods as a teenager and when I was dating him when he was in the Military . We were just starting to rebuild a V-8 engine in a Vega when he received order to go overseas. That was the last hotrod for us, starting a family and moving around kills dreams. But dreams start up with your show. We hope to start again in a few years. Gas Monkey can get out of Texas for cheating , we have watched that show and it holds nothing to Roadkill . Roadkill teaches you life lessons, and real car information .

  9. I think this is really cool, I’ve always liked the General. I also realize that there was a limit to what could be done in the time available. What would be REALLY cool though, is swapping in the full suspension, brake and wheel package from the Hellcat as well along with more boost and then taking it to Optima Ultimate Street Car Challenge (I think that’s what it’s called).

  10. Hello, Roadkill,

    I’m die hard fan of Roadkill ( but definitely no tattoos because my mom will kick my butt ).
    I’m extremely happy that your intention of not completely tear up General mayhem. GM was great the very first time you went to your abandoned parking lot with that crappy suburban with a crappy trailer which has a crappy battery. I was hooked on first sight.

    When you announced you were going to stuff a hellcat in it i was both thrilled and shitting my pants because i really don’t want GM to lose its style just for the sake of shutting some guys up but no you guys nailed the fuck out of it. General mayhem is better and badass. Its definitely gong on my wall. Thank you.

    Abishek, Malaysia.

    PS- The only reason i typed my name in such a way because i want you guys to read.

  11. There is so much winning crammed into this article, that it’s tough to believe you lost. Keep on doing what you do HRM / Roadkill. You lost a race to a badass car, but gearheads all over the world won in a huge way. Thanks for that!

    Jeremy Nutt
    @jeremy_nutt
    hotrodcoffeeshop.com

    1. When you remove the anti-roll bars, it sends all the inertia from a launch in the car to the back, making all the force translate to the rear tires (which is why you’ll see some cars front-ends lift as soon as they take off). With all of that force transferring to the rear tires, it allows the car to squat and thus creates traction. Think of it like a jet taking off.

  12. The HellCat motor on the General Mayhen is freakin’ awesome! To be better, remove those early Charger’s tail lights, they are horrible, and put the 68 ones.

  13. Ill be honest you guys have been doing builds now for as long as I can remember that everybody dreams about this is a bonkers build. I think that if you guys did some serious suspension tuning similar to what you did with the Buick convertible that car would be an insane track car despite weighing just under 2 tons.

  14. can’t wait to see it on roadkill. but i like it. you guy are crazy for it. you guy should do a junk yard build with mighty car mods and gas monkey head mechanic with out richard rawlings.

  15. Man, it’d be great to know when you guys are in town. I’d love to see what kinda monster you’ve cooked up and even give ya a hand if you want. Keep on destroying tires, my friends!

  16. You two earn respect. Car guys dream of having jobs like yours. You also set a great example for my kids. I can’t say the same for GMG. Keep up the great shows. Can’t wait for the next.

  17. Was at the silverdome for the first half of the show, the ear pounding sound the General put down was awesome! Keep pumping out the Roadkill videos……you guys are living my dream…..build on!

  18. When in the f%#* are Frieburger and Finnegan make their way north of the border? Us Canadians are just as diabolical and maniacal with our vehicles! Something to challenge both countries at building something for an event to be held here in Can. would be marvelous for both sides and a blast to be had by all.

    1. Willing to bet the hoops they would have to jump through to film an episode here would not be worth it. CRTC are pricks that way.
      Would probably allow it only if CBC got the rights to air it or some crap like that.
      Watch the Alaska episode when they were lighting off the fireworks and they saw headlights coming. They said turn off the camera. Betting they were told no filming when they crossed the border.
      That being said, I would love to see them do a build and then drive across Canada to race at Targa Newfoundland.

  19. Just watched the new Roadkill with this build. Glad you guys mentioned that the tail lights have to go. I would ditch the projectors too.
    I think the car would be much quicker if you ditched the hell cat multi speed trans and went with a 727 or a th400 3 speed with a decent converter.

  20. Awesome write up Freiburger! As a fan for the last two years I am glad to see you guys get so much recognition and to see your brand develop and grow. I will admit that it stinks that the price of success is less time to do your own builds… but you were able to still make it your own and retain the aura of RoadKill. Hopefully the run in with GMG is a reminder to never ever loose track of your knuckle busting roots!

    So what I don’t get is with 1000lb advantage and the same power train why didn’t the Mayhem didn’t walk all over the 2015 “General Maintenance?”

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  21. If the A$$ Money puppets had fit the Dodge 8 speed automatic into their race car , you could have had that heads up , flashlight start 1/8th mile street race , between the 2 cars , to settle a grudge.

    Freiburger: You should now be well aware of the saying. Be careful for what you wish. By nurturing & constantly refining “Drag Week” for a decade , you now get to enjoy , the fruits of your labours. Your misuse & abuse of the interweb has paid better divedends than it ever did for Jesse Ventura when he ran for & became Govenor of weherever around 1997 (?)
    You have sewn the seeds for the future with Roadkill & aligned yourself with whats left of the Old Guard to get their blessing & support in what you are doing. The mid week Roadkill nights event was epic , all things considered.
    Hopefully after Roadkill nights you will find the way to balance out the future “Roadkill Weekend” events that you were musing about during Drag week.
    I am 100% behind you keeping offa the TV , competition , entertainment & educational shows should be made by people who know & live the life , without interference or scripting of an alternate reality written by people who think “colour action , tradgedy followed by triumph , inbetween advertisements over a 1hr period is , real.
    Use the TV people for the promotion of local events as well as helping local business whenever possible. Also make sure you cut Finnegan in on a few gross points of the action , hopefully it will entice him to stay & play a more active part in the long term , someone has to be around to take your place & show the value of wearing protective footware , after you lose a few toes 🙂

  22. Watched the show and loved it! Rawlings proofed to me that he is overwhelmed with himself and I have a real problem watching someone like that trying to be a real guy. he seems to be in it for the notoriety and nothing else, the show he has has gone from a somewhat real show to a scripted piece of crap! You guys are real folks! Keep it up and live large. Love your show and watch it all the time, hope one day I can shake your hand in person.

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  23. Happy you switched out the steering column.

    To you or anyone doing old MOPAR builds I have one th8ng worth sharing. Change out the linkage pins in the original columns…or maybe it was the steering box itself. How do I know? Cuz I was a MOPAR nut with a 69 Charger back 8n the 70s. Rolled it when the linkage pin sheared off, no fault of mine, design issue, destroyed the car but I walked away.
    One can find titanium pins on the net. I wont pretend to be an expert, just research this issue and fix this problem before it happens to you. Love the site, hope to catch you guys in Milwaukee if the damn cancer lets me.

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  24. You guys need to sell posters. I see only ts and a flatbill in you shop area. I still roll my bills baseball style, so wont buy that. I have way too many ts to buy more. Need mancave stuff/garage stuff. Perhaps some metal signs, and posters of General Mayhem.

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